EPISODE #10: EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT manifestors IN HUMAN DESIGN WITH Vaness Henry

In this episode, Leah continues the Human Design Energy Type Series with an episode dedicated to Manifestors with Vaness Henry. She shares all of the following:

01:38 What is a Manifestor?

04:00 The Manifestor aura

05:21 Manifestor strategy 

15:21 Manifestor signature and not-self themes

20:24 Some Manifestor TLC

26:30 The difference between Manifestors and Manifesting Generators

32:38 Human Design Variables

35:29 Human Design language

45:05 Pop HD versus Source HD

We bring on the Human Design variable queen and bold Manifestor, Vaness Henry, to talk about her experience as a Manifestor and being in her Human Design business for a long time. Vaness is SO amazing! Leah, 5/1 Sacral Generator, and Vaness, Manifestor, chat about everything related to manifestors. Vaness details how she uses her strategy, themes, and more to live in alignment with her human design. They also share the difference between manifestors and mani gens, how variables are used, and some of the language used in human design.

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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

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Leah: Hi, welcome back to another episode in the energy type series on. human design energy types. This episode is going to be all about manifestors. And I'm really excited because I brought on one of my favorite manifestors in the human design space, Vaness Henry. She is an absolutely incredible powerhouse of a manifestor.

[00:00:58] 

Leah: I will get to the interview. But before I do that, I'm going to actually talk to you guys a little bit about the basics of what human design manifestos are. If you're new to human design, which I know a lot of you that listen to this podcast are first, if you don't know your energy type, look it up because, , you're going to want to know what.

[00:01:19] 

Leah: What type you are for the series. And so, , manifestors, if you're a manifestor, it'll say energy type, and then it will literally just say manifestor. And of course there's so many other things you can, and there's a place in the show notes below where you can look up your chart, but today we're talking all about what it means to be a manifestor, how manifestors work.

[00:01:38] 

Leah: , what are the characteristics of a manifestor? What are their strengths? What's, what are their authorities and just so many things about manifestors. So the first thing we're going to start with is what are human design manifestors? The number one thing that I  to say about also listening back to my podcast, I feel  I always say the number one thing.

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Leah: , but what I mean is  the most important thing about being a manifester is knowing how your energy operates. Manifesters are about 3 5 percent of the population. So they are on the rare side. And something I've noticed is that I am so drawn to manifesters. They are one of my absolute favorite types.

[00:02:19] 

Leah: They are just these trailblazers. And so As you're listening to this series, you've probably heard a little bit about what makes each type unique, but Manifestors are just, they are, I would say, even more unique thuman the other types. And really, there's no type that's better thuman the other, but , what makes a human Design Manifestor a Manifestor?

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Leah: By looking at the body graph, a Manifestor is someone who We'll have their throat defined. So the throat area is the square. That's the third from the top of the body graph. And what I mean by defined is that it's colored in. So a manifestor will have that define, and it will also have a motor center directly or indirectly connected to that defined throat.

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Leah: And so motor centers can be, it could be your root center, it could be your ego center, or it could be the solar plexus center. And this is going to be challenging if you're new to understanding human design, and it really doesn't matter. I mean, you just have to know what type you are. It's basically if anyone has a motor connected to their throat, and then they have an undefined sacral.

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Leah: A sacral is the second square from the bottom, that's what makes people a generator. And so that is a little bit about what makes a manifestor a manifestor in their sort of body graph. You know, the basics of being a manifestor are that manifestors are these people who Are  these trailblazers and they're really people who are, they go out there and they get these ideas and they're really, they just get these  bursts of energy and they're designed to kind of follow them.

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Leah: The aura of a manifester is protective. It's formally called closed and repelling. Why I call it protective versus closed and repelling is simply because that language can be off putting for some people. Actually, Vaness and I talk about this in the episode. But it's called the protective aura because it really protects people from or protects the manifesto from interacting with people that are there for them.

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Leah: And what I mean by this is that a manifesto has a big energetic aura field. When they walk into a room, people feel them. They are the people that They're felt, they, they've got, , it's kind of  that song, big, big energy. And so being a manifester is about having that energy, and so why their aura is closed or repelling is , either people are there for them or they're not.

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Leah: If you think of the word repelling, think of  a bug repellent. It basically gets people out of their, gets the bugs out of their way, right? Or you can think of  a jacket,  a rain jacket. Kind of washes the rain off of it rather thuman it's sticking and so I call it protective because it's really protective for them it allows People that are there for that manifesto or that are  into that energy To stick around and then people that aren't they they go away and so whereas  the other types sometimes they have to You know, figure out  who's there for them.

[00:05:21] 

Leah: They have to kind of, you know, understand who is really someone that wants to be around them. Manifestor doesn't have to do that. Their aura is either going to attract you or it's going to repel you. And so That is how the aura works for a manifestor and the aura or the aura, the manifestor strategy is to inform and initiate.

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Leah: And one of the most unique things about being a manifestor is that they're the way that they operate actually works in reverse thuman the other types. So every single energy type. It's energy type and then strategy and authority strategy is how do you strategically use your energy as a whatever type you are to bring yourself the more the most aligned opportunities and how you decide if something's a yes or no from you after you've been using your strategy working with your energy.

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Leah: Then you tune into your authority and your authority is that again, it's this thing that says, you know, this is either a yes or a no for me. What's different about manifestors is there's actually goes authority then strategy. How this works is that manifestors are these people that they get these  bold and bursts of energy,  I've been saying, and.

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Leah: Once they get one of these  ideas or something that they want to go after it's really important for them to tune into their authority and go, okay, is this a yes or a no for me? And there's sort of  three breeds of manifestors. I'm stealing this language from Vaness. We talk about this later as well.

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Leah: Whereas  you can be, so when you say your human design, you say  your profile nber, which would be  a five, one or a six, two or a. A three, five, it's that kind of nber. And then you say your authority and your type. So for example, I am a five, one sacral generator. Okay. , Vaness, who we're going to have on later, she is a six, two ego manifestor and manifestors can be ego manifestors, splenic manifestors, or emotional manifestors.

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Leah: So there's kind of three different breeds. And so that's your authority. That's what we're talking about. And so how a manifestor works is that. When they get these creative ideas, they go, okay, now let me tune into my authority and decide if this is a yes or a no for me. So if it's an emotional, if you're an emotional manifester, it's going to go, okay, I'm making myself some time to feel into this.

[00:07:32] 

Leah: Let me sleep on it. Let me feel into this thing. If you're a spleenic manifester. You, you may get  a little hit at some point where maybe, maybe you're , okay, I think I want to do this. And all of a sudden your spleen's , no, your safety is going to be compromised or it's  an epiphumany. And it's , yes, go do this thing.

[00:07:49] 

Leah: It kind of whispers to you. And it's really spontaneous and random. It's almost  you can't just  actively tap into it. It's  you open the awareness, you give yourself space from this decision. And then all of a sudden it's going to. Come spontaneously speaking to you. If you are an ego manifester, your authority is your ego or your heart center, oftentimes called the willpower center.

[00:08:10] 

Leah: And this is the place where it's , Do I have the heart for this? Am I, am I in this? Do I have the will to do this thing? Is my heart here? Can I make a promise? And so, how that will speak to you is it'll basically be , I really want to do this. I need to do this. I will do this. You'll hear kind of ego words.

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Leah: I want, I will, I should , I or not. I should, I will. I want to, I need this thing. So you'll hear those words kind of come up. I'm really motivated for this. My heart is in this. Those are all ways that your kind of ego will speak to you there. And so the manifestor's job is to look at, okay, if whatever creative burst of energy and idea I'm getting that I want to go after, I tune into my authority, whether emotional, splenic, or ego, and I decide if something's a yes or no, if something's a yes for a manifestor, it's It's super important that they inform people.

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Leah: Their strategy is to inform. And I always joke that all of the other energy types, it's , it seems so easy when you look at a manifestor type because you're , it seems so simple. They just have to tell people, they just have to communicate, but for a manifestor. It is so difficult for them, , at first to understand informing and why this is, is because manifestors are, they're, they're very selective, they're impactful, they're bold, they're masterminds, they're initiators, they are designed to be unapologetic and manifestors, , the other thing that manifestors can fall into is people pleasing.

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Leah: And so sometimes it can feel . Oh my gosh, when I inform people, I am getting them in my way. They're going to get in my way. I want to go somewhere. I have this idea. And if I tell someone about it, they're going to. Get in my way and it's going to piss me off and I'm not going to get to where I want to go as fast as I want to go.

[00:09:59] 

Leah: Or I am going to tell them and they're going to tell me I can't do that and then I should have just done it anyway. And sort of the key with being a manifester is going, I'm going to inform people and I'm also not going to care what they tell me. Because my authority already told me yes, I'm just letting them know because I'm being courteous and I, I usually get to where I want to go a lot quicker when I just inform people and then they get there.

[00:10:24] 

Leah: And so then that's where that initiation piece comes up. Manifestors are the only type that is designed to initiate, meaning none of the other types are meant to  go after things. Manifestors are, they're meant to go get what they want, go after it, go get things. And again, it's just important that they inform people beforehumand.

[00:10:40] 

Leah: So no one else is kind of off put. But again, and if they are off put. It's not for you to stop what you're doing. It's just to, you know, leave it be. And because you have that repelling and closed aura, or as I  to say, protective, it's sort of  you are, , it's either the people that are there for you are going to get on board or they're not.

[00:11:00] 

Leah: I was just actually recording a podcast earlier today where I always kind of describe manifestos as  bus drivers where they're kind of driving the bus. They're, they're going, they've got their foot on the pedal. They're initiating, they're going where they want. And. When they're informing people, it's kind of  they're stopping at the bus stop and they're saying, Hey, this is where we're going either get on board or don't get on the bus, essentially.

[00:11:22] 

Leah: And so either people are there with them or they're not. And so then they, they get to where they want to go faster. And if someone gets on board with them, that's not actually, you know, maybe they're out of alignment, they're not tuned to their strategy and authority. And then they're kind of annoying the bus driver or maybe telling them they should have stopped here.

[00:11:37] 

Leah: They should have did this. That manifestor should just kick you off and stop at the next stop and say, get off. Because they told you where they're going and it's either you're going with them or you're not. So that's how a manifestor operates. So that's their strategy with their authority. That is how a manifestor works.

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Leah: So other things about being a manifestor is that they're natural disruptors and innovators. Where they go, others follow. Or they don't, right? They are people that need a lot of autonomy in their day to day schedule. They need a lot of freedom because they need the space to be , Okay, I have an idea. I want to go somewhere.

[00:12:08] 

Leah: And now I go. Now I'm going there. I'm going to do that thing. They need to be unapologetic and bold, and they, they need to have that space to be able to follow these creative pursuits. I also find that manifestors are really gifted at seeing the future of where things are going before other people do.

[00:12:25] 

Leah: They're really good at bringing new ideas and ways of doing things into the world. And, you know, some challenges that can show up with that is You know, sometimes they can feel  overly passive and they're constantly waiting for things to come to them. Manifestors don't have a defined sacral, so  the generator types, I mentioned kind of the second square from the bottom, that's called the sacral, that area on your chart is all about being a worker, being a worker or a, , or a doer, which I don't love the language worker because I think that that's kind of old paradigm, but it's about having the fuel or energy to go.

[00:12:59] 

Leah: And Projectors, manifestors, and reflectors don't have that part of them. So it's really important that manifestors give themselves rest. And so between these creative bursts of ideas that they get, it's important that they rest and know that , they can't just keep going after idea after idea, when if there isn't an idea, right?

[00:13:16] 

Leah:  sometimes they're going to have moments of Leeway or moments where they're just kind of  not feeling  a burst of energy. And so it's important for them to, to kind of, you know, give themselves rest. And then also know that , it's okay for, for them to  wait a moment, but also  they're initiators, they can initiate something when they get that burst, but the burst isn't going to come unless they're giving themselves rest in a break.

[00:13:40] 

Leah: When they're trying to be generators too much, they're going to fall into, , being really, we'll talk about their not self theme, which is anger. You know, the only thing I see manifestors do that can be a challenge is trying to fit in a box that wasn't built for them. Trying to be  the generator, again, trying to be  another type when they're meant to be sort of these trailblazers and, , go after what they want rather thuman, you know, looking for others permission.

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Leah: So, manifestors should not look for permission from people, they should just go. Again, when they inform, it's just to let people know not to get permission for whatever it is. , the other thing that manifestors again, we'll do is overworking and overdoing again, acting  sake rolls or generators where this makes them unavailable for new ideas.

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Leah: They have to rest. There also are some myths that show up with being manifestors. So, you know, the one thing is that I always hear, , I'm just supposed to be a loaner and do it all by myself, and that's not true. You're not meant to do everything alone. Again, the people that are meant for a manifesto are going to follow.

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Leah: The other thing is that, , you know, they repel people. Again, it's not that you repel everyone, you repel people that aren't going to where you want to go. And they might come around the corner for the next big idea, but that's just kind of what happens. The other thing is people can find them challenging.

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Leah: I don't see that Manifestors are challenging and, , I don't think that other people see you as challenging. I think people are inspired and impacted by you. Manifestors leave an impact on the world around them. That's just what their aura does. So those are just some myths that I wanted to call out. And when a manifestor is in alignment, they're going to feel peace.

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Leah: So this is something called our signature theme. I oftentimes call this the true self theme or the alignment theme, the sign that you are in alignment. And this is really peace for a manifestor. A manifestor is in alignment when they feel calm and at peace with the world and their lives. And what I mean by this is when you've informed people, when you've told them where you're going, there's going to be a sense of peace that happens.

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Leah: You told them, and now you're going to do what you want to do. You've initiated and it's going to bring about peace for you, especially when you entered the idea using your authority, it's going to bring you peace. I always say strategy plus authority equals. Your signature theme. It's kind of  a formula.

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Leah: So strategy to inform, plus authority, which is the breed, which of what you are, you're the breed of your authority. So you could be again, emotional authority, splenic authority, or you can be ego authority. Every time you use that in line with your strategy to inform, actually, I should say authority plus strategy in this case equals peace.

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Leah: You're always going to feel peace. So if you're a manifestor listening to this, it's really important that you allow yourself to understand the more and more that you are feeling peaceful. That's the sign that you're in alignment. I always give people this practice is take inventory today. What? What brings you peace or what has brought you peace?

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Leah: What's brought you peace today? Maybe every evening you can start to think about what brings me peace. What makes me calm? And start to think about that feeling and what around you brings that about. And I would also encourage you when you have that list go, Okay, when did I make the decision to do this thing?

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Leah: Or that thing, maybe it brought you peace to, maybe you went for a walk and you're , you know what, I want to go for a walk and you just go do it and you let people know, maybe it's  whoever you live with, hey, I'm going for a walk, so you inform people and then all of a sudden you have this, this sense of peace and it's , okay, think about when you made that decision, when that, yeah.

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Leah: Idea dropped into your head, into your authority, in your body, and you decided that it was a yes, and then you told someone, and then now you feel peace. Just think about that. Think about how your strategy and authority led you there. The sign that a manifester is out of alignment is anger. So again, same thing.

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Leah: Ask yourself, if you're a manifester, What, what makes me angry? Where am I angry in my life? What today made me angry? Why did it make me angry? And then I would encourage you to go, Did I not inform the right people? Was this actually a no and I did it anyway? If you were an emotional manifester, did I not give myself some time to sleep on this, you know, decision?

[00:18:10] 

Leah: And so the more that you can lean into figuring out, Okay, how did I not use my strategy and authority? And where am I angry? And how did that lead to me being angry? That's going to help you understand how to get into alignment. So, the Manifestor basics, just to kind of regroup them all together, the Aura is formally called Close and Repelling.

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Leah: I  to call it Protective. The Strategy is to Inform, but before you use your Strategy, you have to use your Authority. And then, You use your strategy and you inform people of who this decision affects. And when you do that, you're going to feel peace, which is your signature theme. And if you don't do that, you might feel anger, which is your not self theme.

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Leah: So that is a little bit about being a manifester. I wanted to touch on really quickly something. That, I think, is really cool about Manifestors. So, Manifestors were the kind of leaders of, I guess, the old world. And now we're shifting into Projectors being the leader of, , the new world and the new paradigm.

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Leah: And when we talk about leaders, there's a lot of conditioning around this word. So, and this is something that Vaness and I actually talk about as well, but what I want to kind of just note with that is , you are still leaders, but in a different way. What's really interesting is that when we talk about the old world and manifestors, if you pull charts of,  monarchy, people who are in powers of position  kings or queens and sort of the old world things.

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Leah: They were most ly a manifester. Most of them were manifesters because that was the energy that was leading the world. They were the trailblazers. They were the people that, again, it's kind of  you're either getting on board or you're not. And so they were kind of leading. The world for some time, then it shifted to generators and it became a kind of  the workers, the builders, which again, don't love that language with generators, but then it sort of shifted to this collective,  we have to build our society.

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Leah: The energy was a lot about, , making, , systems and, and, , we talk about in this episode as well. I'm just  basically telling you guys in the entire episode before you listen to it, but we talk about. , generators are basically  the holy ones because we have the world kind of set up for us.

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Leah: It's really interesting. We're moving into projectors being the leaders, but just wanted to note that it's really cool if you're a manifestor that most kings and queens and people that used to lead sort of the old world are all manifestors. So I just think that's a fun little tidbit. What I'm going to leave you with before we get into the interview portion of the show is some TLC.

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Leah: I hope you guys know that in my mentorship, which will be chumanging into a formal sort of . human design training. If you want to learn human design, it will be a self paced course. I'm just giving you guys insight into something that will come later this year. But it's a place, , for you to kind of learn about everything human design.

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Leah: You could become a reader if you want after, but in whatever capacity you want to use human design in your life, this will be a program for you. But in my slides that the people I mentor right now, and if you want mentorship while you're listening to this, you can still join it. It will be open by the time this episode.

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Leah: Comes out, but I give every type a TLC, tender love and care. And for manifestors, the mantra that I leave them with is I brave the unknown. So if you're a manifestor listening, your mantra today is I brave the unknown. Something that I want manifestors to remember is that to rest between inspiration and projects for something for manifestors to look out for is people pleasing.

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Leah: The remedy for these things is to do your own thing. And the affirmation that I leave you with as a manifestor is I do things in a unique, bold way. That is my manifestor TLC. And these are also listed in my guidebooks. This is listed in my training. So just to give you insight into all of that. Right now.

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Leah: This is actually while I'm recording this, it's before the method begins, but right now, if you're listening, I will be deep into the method with my, my group cohort going through it. If you'd  to join the method in a one on one setting, it is available. So please join. There is a, again, a one on one version.

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Leah: There's a group version as well. The group will be reopening in the fall, but the one on one version is open indefinitely. So if you'd  to join us, let me know. I'd love to have you. So yeah, wanted to just give you guys some insight into what I'm up to, but let's get into the interview portion with Vaness because I think you guys are really just going to love this episode.

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Leah: It was just so cool hearing from her. She's an OG human design. Geek or nerd human design girl on the Instagrams. And she's just, she's really created some cool stuff in this space. She had an app at one point. She has a whole  TV network. Well, it's  on YouTube, but she has this whole sort of network you can join.

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Leah: She's the Variable Queen. You're going to hear us talk about that. I know I have a lot of newer human design people on this podcast. So what we mean by variables is the part in human design that references our primary health system. So digestion, environment, strongest sense. Perspective, or sometimes called manifesting style.

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Leah: We also talk about that and motivation, and she is kind of the queen of the variables. The variables on your chart are those arrows on either side of your head, and they point  left or right, and there's two on each side. So that's what that refers to. It's formally called determination, cognition, environment, again, perspective, motivation.

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Leah: It's all this stuff. It's how our body can be nourished and how our mind can be nourished to get us into alignment.

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Leah: Alright, we have Vaness Henry with us today. She is an amazing manifester. If you don't already follow her on Instagram, you have to. She is Just a powerhouse. And she has the most amazing clear voice is what I  to say. And we're so excited to have her here today because Vaness is going to talk to us a little bit about what it means to be a manifester.

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Leah: And then so much of her own journey within the sort of human design space. So without further ado, Vaness, introduce yourself, tell us who you are and everything about your journey.

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Vaness: It's so fun coming on shows because people will introduce you a certain kind of way and , what else, what are they going to say about me?

[00:24:39] 

Vaness: And it's always so illuminating to hear what people pick out, what they talk about. And I always get a little smidge embarrassed. So that's where I'm at. But yeah, you really want to talk about the manifesto experience and what that's . I know you've been on a little bit of a path on, , watching manifestos lately or engaging with manifestos.

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Vaness: So first I want to know what has been drawing you to manifestos lately? 

[00:25:00] 

Leah: Yeah. Okay. So one thing that I've realized in my life is that I'm very drawn to manifestors and I, and I'm just starting to kind of recognize this and, and I don't have any really close friends that are manifestors, but I have found that every single person that I've hired to do something for me without even knowing their energy type.

[00:25:18] 

Leah: Is a manifester. You're attracted to that. Yeah. Yeah. So there's someone that is helping me with  social media and doing my reels and different things for my podcast. And she's a manifester and I could just sit in her energy all day. , and before that I I'd been drawn to your Instagram for a while and just  closely watching your stories.

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Leah: I had someone who was helping me. , on sort of  a PR front with my podcast, she's a manifester. And I, again, I could just kind of sit there and listen to her speak. I could just be in her energy. And, and then this other person that, , I've worked with as a manifester. And so I don't know what it is.

[00:25:53] 

Leah: I'm just something about manifesters I love. It's a dynamic that I don't know that I've ever actually read any sort of material about between , a generator and a manifestor. And it was funny because I was just on a podcast with a manifestor and she was asking me , how she doesn't  to work with other manifestors because she's .

[00:26:12] 

Leah: I don't know if it's because we both have, you know, crazy ideas or we, we were kind of , we get this burst of energy and then I don't  the way that, , I don't  where they're going. I want to do it my way. And, and she's , but I  working with generators. And I was , well, maybe there's something there.

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Leah: , but it's just really interesting. So yeah, I would say lately that's been my experience. 

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Vaness: Yeah. I think type to type. Relationships are hugely expansive,  I've watched the way generators will ping pong off each other and respond, respond, respond, respond, and it's so healing because there's this natural understanding and the same is true for manifestor to manifestor, projector to projector, especially reflector to reflector.

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Vaness: I think it's because once we start to speak the language of human design, there's such a willingness or an openness or readiness to understand the other. I know we approach this study as , I'm going to understand myself, but as a six, two profile, a conscious six line, so much of my experience is other oriented.

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Vaness: And when I'm able to really understand my child or understand my partner, it creates all these new spaces. Of love to explore, you know, I have found the human design space itself to be an incredibly healing space for the manifestor design type specifically because so much of our relationships with people in the world, we're not aware of how we are, you know, we're not aware that we are this way.

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Vaness: We just know we. Kind of have this unruly nature to us sometimes, and many of us have to grapple with these outbursts of emotion that we can experience, but once we start to learn about what that is and why that's happening, it's very permission giving for manifestors, and it really starts to create these gateways towards their peace.

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Vaness: That they sometimes haven't experienced at all. So when a manifestor comes to the human design space and there's this community there that's ready to receive them who immediately understands how to engage with them or how their behavior might present, they just give them more space. And even though that's possible for manifestors to experience in, in non human design speaking spaces, but it's, it's way more ly in human design spaces and in the manifestor to manifestor relationships.

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Vaness: I've. I've healed or been in or struggled through. There's always huge impact. So some of my most challenging relationships have definitely been with manifestors. And there's this agonizing,  after, and some of the most expansive ones have been as well, but so much richness can be found. When we mix  manifestor to generator is such a natural dynamic, initiate, respond, initiate, respond.

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Vaness: And there is no hierarchy in  who is above or below or anything  that.  a boss can be a generator with a bunch of manifestor people around them. Absolutely. It's just going to create all this mutative impact and chumange. And also have that generator with tons of things to respond to so they could, you know, lead in this really great way.

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Vaness: Because from the manifesto experience, so much is told to us that we're not the leaders anymore. That projectors are the new leaders and manifestos are sort of being put out to pasture. And so what does that really mean for us? And it really forces us to reevaluate the entire concept of leadership and where we could really have an impact with others.

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Vaness: And as a 6'2 profile, most of my impact comes in my small relationships, you know,  with my, my immediate one to ones or the ones in my close family. It's not necessarily as big, wide collective thing, you know, where I have the most impact is probably  who I know personally. And the further I go, I think it's true for each of us, regardless of our design type, if that makes sense.

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Leah: For sure. For sure. I love so much of what you said, because I feel , well, and I love the part where you shared about the kind of languaging around the projectors kind of being the new leaders. And I think that when I've heard that, I've talked to a manifester before in a reading who had heard that.

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Leah: And that was really kind of off putting. Yeah. Off putting. And we talked about, you know, conditioning around the words leader and what that really means. And, and so I think it's really cool just to kind of hear that perspective, because I think there's so many ways that the impact is still felt in different relationships.

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Leah: You know, maybe it is more one to one, maybe it is more intimate and just the dynamics of the world that we're living in and everything around that. It's just really cool to hear your experience. And so one of the things I wanted to ask you is , What was your initial reaction when you heard that you were a manifester when you found human design?

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Leah: Tell me about that experience. 

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Vaness: My first introduction to human design was in 2013 with Karen Curry Parker's Red Book. I did not hear of Ra Yu Ru Hu. I had, I had entered in through Karen Curry and then had to discover Ra after. So, a gratitude towards Karen for, you know, presenting the new astrology. That's how her book was presented.

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Vaness: The new astrology. And as somebody who was very, , involved in the astrology community, I was , cool, what's this? But when I read the book and did these calculations, I was in, you know, my mid twenties, early twenties maybe. And I felt bad about having the title of ego manifester. Oh God, everybody's right.

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Vaness: I'm awful. I just lead by my ego because ego was such a dirty word. And, , part of my personal story is, , as somebody who's taste cognition and a high sound the language around me, I'm very sensitive to, and I get sick of things. And I first learned this as somebody who has a cancer background. I was a cancer patient as a teenager, and I got really sick of everybody talking about cancer as it's.

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Vaness: Battle, you know, this fight, this war. And I, I started to get a really big aversion to that and started to notice that certain language would make me feel that way.  certain language would start to repel me, if that makes sense. Hmm. And , ego was definitely one of them. So I moved away from human. I read this book and then closed it up and went about my life, didn't do anything else with it.

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Vaness: Stayed in the world I was in. And once I met my partner fell in love. Went through the Saturn return, got pregnant, started a family. It came back around. And I really did need it in a way to help me come to terms with this new role I was moving into and parenting. I really leaned on it for parenting.  that was a huge thing.

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Vaness: I want to understand my child. And that's what then led me into variable, which is where I study pretty specifically now, you know, after, after playing around and , where's my little area that I , I. in there because I'm very focused on wellness and how to take care of the body because I came close to death many times and was really afraid in my own body and had to figure out, well, what works for me and something that was A huge indicator was language and that became a big motivator for me in the human design space with manifestors because manifestors don't  to be told they're repelling, you know, they don't it feeds into all their traas.

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Vaness: We don't actually  when people scold us for being people pleasers. You know, we're , the whole reason we're people pleasers is because we're having a traa response because the space outside us was abusive and we're now chumanging our behavior to try and avoid receiving that abuse. And yet people talk to us  we're really resilient and can humandle a lot because we have this closed aura, but we're soft gooey babies inside.

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Vaness: And I really wish people would realize that. hard shell is protecting something soft because to create and manifest. And for me, that happens at will with my ego. , I had to go on a journey to heal what my understanding of the language of ego was to even be able to have access to my manifestation power.

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Vaness: And it was kind of devastating to realize, wow, I've maybe lived quite some time without full access to that. And then come and kind of coming to terms with what that meant for me, but it was very healing. To be honest, it's funny 

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Leah: because I shared a video that you did the other day. That was just amazing.

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Leah: You did it on your stories. And I think I  replied to your story and then you turn it into a real, which I was so happy you did. And I shared it. I got a message from someone that said, what is an ego manifester? And what does that mean? And, you know, I think I have a lot of newcomers in human design that follow me.

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Leah: And so I then had a, you know, conversation that ego manifestor, that that's referring to their authority. And we had this whole conversation about what that meant. But I think exactly what you're talking about, there was sort of that conditioning around the word ego. They're , what's an ego manifestor.

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Leah: And they literally said, I'm a manifestor. , am I an ego manifestor? I'm , well, what's your authority? So we had this whole conversation, but so funny. , it's exactly just talking about what you, what you just shared and. I think that, , it's such a beautiful testament to, , just so much of what you've experienced too.

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Leah: , I think human design is so beneficial in us understanding ourselves and, and especially again, sort of  in a health way. And so I love that you've. dove deep into the variables. And I want to talk about that in a little bit for sure. A lot of my listeners, I would say, , we haven't talked about variables on this podcast quite yet.

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Leah: So I think it'll be really fun to kind of dive into that. But before 

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Vaness: we're very interested in that, , yeah, and it makes sense, but there's so much to know kind of before that too. Yeah. Yeah. 

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Leah: And I had two questions that came up. So the first one is around language. So something that I've noticed in the human design spaces, you know, language can be a big topic.

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Leah:  when people chumange the language in certain words, what are your thoughts on words being different in human design? Because you mentioned repelling being something that you don't love to hear. , are you a fan of, because a lot of times I'll tell, , manifestors that their aura is. Protective. Are you a fan of kind of switching those things?

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Leah: Are you someone that's , no, I  exactly the way that it was kind of interpreted by raw or what's your kind of thoughts on those things? This is a 

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Vaness: very good question because in the human design space, notoriously, there's a little bit of policing around. Language behaviors. And this is just kind of speaking to the dogmatic things we all experience when we start to play with human design, because we have to come to terms with , right, wrong, good, bad, and all these rules we create for ourselves in our reality, when I'm sort of of the philosophy that we've already evolved past that way of binary thinking.

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Vaness: And we're really just looking for concepts to help us understand This really evolved body that we have in this really advanced reality that we're in. I'm somebody who, when I first started getting into human design, I started translating things and noticed there was this huge disconnect with people not being able to understand what I was talking about.

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Vaness: I  to think of human design and astrology or nerology or any of these things as awareness languages. You know, we speak cultural languages. We have certain dialects we even speak in, or little colloquial things we do. But there's also these new awareness languages that when we speak them, we can understand each other with greater nuance and depth.

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Vaness: And we kind of have more emotional relationships, I would say. So when I first got into this really wanting to connect with people, I did chumange things and I did chumange language because I was wanting to try and connect. And what I realized as I continued through my process was this was actually Somewhat creating more harm thuman good because it was adding to the confusion.

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Vaness: And so it became, , kind of became a challenge, but also a game to how can I use these classic concepts and language, but how can I use my ability to explain and through storytelling and examples to kind of give really practical understanding of that language? I don't think this is ever going to go away.

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Vaness: I think people are always going to be chumanging things or customizing things. A really big one. Actually, I'd love to tell this story because I was around when this started happening. I translate variable, and one of the, one of my favorite variables is the bottom right variable, which is the perspective variable.

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Vaness: These are the four arrows that flank the head of the body graph. And the perspective variable is measuring the way you're designed to see the world around you. And there's all these colors we can see the world through. And they all mean different things. Jenna Zoe is somebody who really brought human design into kind of the online space and really helped amplify it.

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Vaness: And I remember when I was first blogging, I, I wrote about human design and quoted her and quoted some other people. And I sent it to the Jovian archive or the international human design school. And one of the first things they said to me was, We are not affiliated with Jenna Zoe. We do not approve with anything.

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Vaness: Jenna Zoe says, and they were really off put by her. And I was somewhat off put by how they said that to me, you know? And so as the little baby manifesto, I was , Oh, I'm so sorry. I did not mean to offend. I was simply trying to give awareness to this study that I guess I quoted the wrong people. They wrote back and apologize.

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Vaness: We're , Oh no, no, no.  we love that you're writing about this. We just want you to know we have a very specific list of people who you can quote. I was , Oh, that's, I got a journalism background.  my trade was journalism. I was , that's not really how it works, but that's, I can play this game and do this dance.

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Vaness: So I started to look at Jenna Zoe through this lens of, wow, they don't  her. Okay. I wonder why. And notice she really started to chumange language, the perspective variable. She had kind of mutated into the manifestation variable, kind of feeding into our obsessive culture of we want to understand how to manifest.

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Vaness: It's a buzzword, but what it did. It focused people on being specific or nonspecific manifestors. And what happened there was people started experimenting with it and getting really great results, but we lost all the depth available there. We lost all the colors. We lost all the tones. We lost the base. We really lost the way we could richly understand the mind.

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Vaness: So I think we're in a mutative study and we're always going to be chumanging the language and figuring out things that work. But as you deepen into this study, And people start to learn the language. You can see who knows what they're talking about and who is still exploring. And I think we just encourage those people who are exploring by just keeping speaking the language.

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Vaness: Hey, you're what's your design. You're a manifester. You're a generator. What's your authority. Where do you make your decisions? And we just keep using that language and those buzzwords just to almost dilute it and make it so familiar because it makes it easier to recognize when we do bring in new mutative language.

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Vaness: And then we can kind of decide together, does this work for us about the manifestation variable? I try my best to be polite about that because classically it's called the perspective variable, but I've seen a lot of people play with it and they develop all new modalities and it leads them somewhere new.

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Vaness: And so it's hard to ever pass a judgment on it for me as the six line, because it's . That's not really what I speak to. I really call it the perspective variable because my whole thing is translating color and tone and helping people understand their personal depths and how to be well. But I have to say, I've seen people play with specific and non specific manifestation and they enjoyed it.

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Vaness: So I kind of just. Let those people do that now. But if somebody comes to me and is , am I specific or non specific? I just don't really entertain it because I don't want to add confusion because I did before. And now that I've recognized I've added confusion, I try to do my best to, I don't want to say course correct, but let it be known that, Hey, I translated that differently too, and made some mistakes there.

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Vaness: And I say mistakes because I see how it caused more confusion unnecessarily. And ultimately I want to be as clear as possible because I want people to be well, my, my big motive is let us understand the body. Let us be friend and understand the mind so we can reach these new kind of stages of wellness.

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Vaness: So in this long roundabout way, sorry, around language, Language, I think, is the whole beautiful thing, and I think we should each use our personal poetry to translate things, but I think there's very something, something very special about the original language that is, I wonder if we could look at it as  a sacred thing, you know, wow, this is the, this is the language.

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Vaness: That I can now speak with people and we can connect on this way, deeper way. You know, if we just approach it , okay, I got to learn the language. It's  learning French, you know, I've got to figure out the grammar. I've got to figure out and it suddenly makes it more playful and less intimidating because I can appreciate that the policing and the dogma and.

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Vaness: You're wrong. You're right. Is so not the way, but it is something that we move through and people sometimes do feel a responsibility.  they've got to point it out, but it can be just so jarring to receive. And then it can be off putting to people to stop exploring human design altogether, which we don't want because it is such a wonderful.

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Vaness: Awareness language. Oh, gosh. Yeah. I mean, I 

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Leah: could probably do a whole episode on this. I mean, just so much of what you said. I love it. And I love your perspective because your perspective as we're talking about the perspective variable. And, you know, I think it's funny to just to kind of know on Genozoid.

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Leah: I mean, that's really where I began in human design and That's how a lot 

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Vaness: of people begin. , we have to, we kind of have to bow to her in a way because she brings the awareness to everybody to learn about it. And then it's, it's behoove of us as the individual to go find the places we need to, to explore, but she brings people in.

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Vaness: So you have to thumank her for that. However she does it, it doesn't really matter. We all need to be a little bit more aware. So, and 

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Leah: I had a whole experience where I was kind of , I kind of got on that train of , So mad of  the way I had originally learned it when I started to really kind of deepen my studies.

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Leah: I'm a 5/1. That's I mean, I got really deep into  the source material and really learning and the people that are listening that are maybe new to human design. This may be  a different level of a conversation that you're not ready for. But we're when I first started to get in, I remember getting really angry and really  dis her didn't want  was  really upset about it.

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Leah: And then I would say within the last year, Maybe, ,  10 months, I've  really kind of reopened the door,  we followed re sort of took it in because I was , you know, I really  this experiment. And, you know, maybe there's going to be a point in my life where I don't again. And so it's , I've, I've again, kind of  given her those  kudos and to be really excited and manifesting.

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Leah: It's so funny that we're brought this up because I actually put a post out today,  how to manifest using your human design manifestation was  one of my first babies before I found human design,  astrology was yours, which Astrology is a big part of my life too. But then manifestation was  something that I felt  I was really good at.

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Leah: And I always say human design was  the best way that I've manifested. And I, I remember people being , well, is it because you're arrow? And before I even knew that that was a word, I was , no, it's because I use my strategy and authority using that. Well, you're going to return to the frequency of how you were meant to live.

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Leah: And that's going to help you manifest things and manifestation. Is really just simply the word of bringing things that you desire into your life. And there's different ways that people do that, but I'm always very clear with people that , look, this is not a source. This is not source. There is so many layers underneath this, but if you want to experiment with it and it feels good for you, then go ahead and try that.

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Leah: And I always tell people, I feel  I'm very much a, , in between the. sort of source and maybe the pop HD, as people call it. , I feel  I kind of fall in the middle a little bit and sometimes I go deep, but I'm very much someone who's , it depends on where you're at. I feel  I get lots of newcomers.

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Leah: And so we're, we're talking about things that may be more of a surface level, but, you know, you really have given me, , a perspective of just what you were saying around the language and this sort of system that we have to learn the language for. And, you know, something I thought about when you said that was.

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Leah: It's true. Where is, you know, right now it feels confusing for some people and perhaps it's feels dogmatic and inaccessible, but I think the more that we talk about it, the more that, , the words become more familiar and people as human design emerges into the world, things , you know, in astrology,  the house or the Chiron or the stelli, there's all these different languages and astrology that are very common now.

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Leah: And so it's  a lot of these words, yeah. There is, there can be harm in chumanging them, but I think at some point it's going to be when we go back to the original, it's going to be really under,  a lot of people are going to understand it because just through just speaking the language of a system and it's going to be more widely spread.

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Vaness: Think of the word retrograde and  how that has , everybody knows what that is now, but it's become comical.  we start to make fun of it. Right. And then, then comes the, you know, the reeducation where it's , wait, this, this isn't bad. So as soon as things kind of get to a certain vole of awareness, they really start to grapple with , good, bad, good, bad, good, bad.

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Vaness: But we are evolving past that. Something that happens in the human design space that I see a lot is , somebody will say , I'm showing you this so you don't have to make my mistakes or blah, blah, blah. It's , we can't actually do that. You can't actually remove people from that. , we can't remove the dogmatic process.

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Vaness:  we all have to go through that. And so. It's, it's kind of , that's part of the deconditioning process. So once you just see that for what it is,  you said, , Oh, I dis this person or I'm getting mad or that's so natural.  that's literally part of the deconditioning process. That's  year two that comes on so loud for us.

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Vaness: It's , you have to start weeding. And then, you know, year three of playing and experimenting. I  to try and repeat the language of we reach this critical mass. Of knowledge where then suddenly we have to tip into you have to start making new choices and you're start to become so aware of things and how things feel for you that you have to bravely choose another way and choose away from the way you've kind of always been doing things.

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Vaness: But there is always nerous sides and nerous truths. So, for example. You were  saying this, this whole big thing about source material. This is another thing I see where people's , this is quoted from source. And as somebody with a journalism background, you would think that immediately that is, Oh, I'm, I'm going to the original person that this was expressed from it's the original source kind of thing.

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Vaness: But the longer I was in this, what I started to see happen was people started to use the language of source.  they were the source.  this comes straight from my inner Godness, my inner source. And so it was just creating just as much confusion. , so are you quoting a source or are you quoting yourself and you couldn't actually tell what somebody meant,  how spiritual they were, how right they were, how left they were, you know, how it was just, it was just a total fricking mess.

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Vaness: And so I just started. Not using any of that language. So if anyone's , this is from source, I just start tuning it out because it's , I don't know what they mean. And I don't know that their audience knows what they mean. This is what I, what I was trying to say just comes back to your personal poetry and how you emit and what frequency you're coming from when you're trying to express and stuff  that, you know, you got into manifestation too.

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Vaness: And I do want to. Talk about that because I think it's cool to hear the manifester perspective on manifestation sometimes because so many people are , wait, I'm not a mat.  everybody wants to be a manifest because they want to manifest. But I'm really of the mind that when you come here and you have this experience, the life you make for yourself, .

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Vaness: Make manifest on earth,  whatever you do, whatever life you live is, is how you're manifesting and whatever formless ideas or things that you want to experience. As soon as you bring that into the 3d material plane earth, real world,  I want to go on a trip and I'm seeing that for myself. And then there I am in the future, walking my feet through that place.

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Vaness: Well, I'm making a life for myself, you know, but manifestors are never going to get anybody throwing them a bone. Or any kind of opportunity given to them on a silver platter. They really do have to go out and get it and initiate it. We're not designed to respond. And so sometimes I can't speak for every manifesto, but I will say for myself, there's this envy that I've experienced and seen others experience for this.

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Vaness: Act of readiness, which is waiting, the waiting, people get really stressed about, I got to wait. I'm not a manifestor. So I got to wait. I'm so stressed, but that's just practicing the act of readiness and simply waiting for something to come to you for you to then determine, or we're , wow, what the hell is that?

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Vaness: , we've been trying our whole lives to try and do that. And it really doesn't work for us. And it does make us really angry. And we do. kind of cause havoc sometimes and, and hurt the spaces around us because we're so upset that we're not being able to fit in this generator world. So there's this huge grieving that has to come to place first in order to make the space inside we need to call in the big manifestations that we want to experience.

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Vaness: And I think this starts to get kind of less manifestor specific and more kind of human being specific, but If we want to experience something for ourselves, it's our responsibility to self inquire if we actually have the capacity to experience that. And so many of us are tangled in unhealthy relationships with our partners or our parents or our friends or our careers.

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Vaness: And it's really kind of strapping us down into this reality that we're pinned to then. And only when we start to kind of. Free up that space and detach and sometimes end relationships or sometimes end careers or end personal philosophies or unhealthy habits only then when we start removing things. Do we have the capacity to move toward what we actually want to move toward?

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Vaness: And that's Universal. We all kind of are here to experience that. But the way in which we go about that, the way in which we move through our personal processes is really different type to type. Yeah. And in the beginning of this conversation, we were  talking about being an ego manifestor and how someone was , wow, what does that mean?

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Vaness: , some, some mutated language that I  to use is the, all the design types have breeds and the manifestors. Design type has three breeds. They can be splenic, emotional, or ego, and that's really just speaking to what their authority is the generators, both generators and manifesting generators have two breeds.

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Vaness: They can be emotional or they can be pure. They can be sacral authority. Projectors have five breeds.  they're still , Oh my God, , first of all, okay, that's a lot of different kinds of people and emotional projector is not going to be anything  a mental projector, you know,  they're, they're so different, even though they both wait for the invitation, you know, and then reflector.

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Vaness: Of course we have the one reflector breed because all their centers are open. So. When you just look at that, even nuance among the types we're gonna manifest differently,  two generators, a peer generator and an emotional generator is gonna have a different process on how they navigate reality and make happen strategy and authority happen for them.

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Vaness: Yeah, so everything really does come back to strategy and authority and being able to really be in that, really play with that. Really surrender to that body trust and that experience trust above what's going on kind of around you. That's how you manifest because that's helping you move toward the realities that you want to move toward.

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Vaness: But our pace is all different. You know, we move differently among the playing field of life. And so when we stop kind of looking at each other and what's  working for generators and working for manifestos, and we give each other permission to just be who we are and honor our process, it starts to naturally align our environment variable.

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Vaness: We start to make these chumanges that get us a little bit more aligned are the Spaces around us. We're starting to feel good. And that's usually when people start exploring their variable. They want it. They've been doing their strategy and authority for a while. They feel  they're getting the humang of it.

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Vaness: And now they're wanting to understand how to really take care of themselves and how to sort of. Be more aware of their body's language and the unique language that is emitted from them as an individual. 

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Leah: Your vehicle. What do you feel , and that's a really good conversation because I get asked this a lot when I talk about variables, , so I sell something called guidebooks and I include variables as a part of that.

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Leah: And the question I've had is . You know, why are you including this? This is  something that, you know, is a little bit too, you shouldn't learn this part of human design first. And I always say, yes,  paying attention to your strategy and authority above anything else, even before you dive into your chumannels.

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Leah: But knowing that information is fun. And two, I think that when you're ready for it, you have it all there. And so one of the questions I have for you is someone who's. Sort of the variable queen. Fun title. Fun title. Yeah. What is the, , what do you feel  is, I guess, the, the timing or, or would you say when someone is using their strategy and authority?

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Leah: When do you think they're ready for variables? And , and just to give you my personal opinion. Sure. My thing is that I find that you don't even have to learn about your variables for them to happen. I think that once you're in alignment with your strategy and authority, your variable smack you in the face.

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Leah: All of a sudden you are noticing  for my, I'm close taste. And I noticed that once I started living in alignment, then all of a sudden it was , Oh, I,  I started operating in that way. With how I digest food, how I, then my cognition, my feeling cognition started to really show up. And so it's almost  I didn't have to do anything.

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Leah: It just started, it started happening for me when I just got to that level. And so I'm just curious, , what is your sort of take on , is there so long that someone should be using their strategy and authority? Do you think that there is a perfect time for people to learn about variables? 

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Vaness: Yeah, this is a great question because we always want to know if we're ready and if it's safe for us to approach it and I can appreciate that.

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Vaness: I think this is an area people want to know because they want to understand. You know, how do I experience nourishment? What spaces am I, do I resonate with? How am I designed to see the world? And how do I make sense of the world? , how does my mind work? How does my body work? They want to understand that because they, these are typically people who have been on well.

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Vaness: You know, they've had something happen to them. We all have stories. We all have traas and we want to respect this vehicle. We want to respect this body. And the consciousness is really here to be a caretaker of the body to to watch and be aware. So in theory, when we're living these really healthy ways, which is totally possible and available to us.

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Vaness: This is the way our body will experience the most health and wellness these. Through this variable. So for example, you knowing you're feeling cognition and a closed taste person, you're able to kind of deduce what that might mean for you. , if you didn't have that awareness, you might still be doing those things.

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Vaness: So it's not  you need this to live healthy. You might already be doing it. But what comes for people is this. This incredible  aha and self illination and self respect and self understanding.  a lot of people start to learn this, this area and learn their depths and they get really emotional because it is permission giving, you know, especially if, if somebody has, , second colors or second tones,  you said, your close taste, that's a second color person.

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Vaness: So your entire demeanor. Is somebody who really needs to be somewhat closed to what they're allowing to come into their life. They have to be, you're sensitive and it's your responsibility to respect that sensitivity. And this goes beyond just the food you put in your mouth. But when you conse anything in reality, think of how we conse content.

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Vaness: Now you really will need to be selective about what you're allowing yourself to intake. Because as you, we can see a feeling cognition person, you're going to plug into the energy field of the thing. And it's going to really conse you as. If it's happening to you and you could get fried, you know, you could get totally fried.

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Vaness: If you're not selective, sometimes someone will come in and it's just, they're too much for you and their, their vibe is off and it's actually somewhat detrimental to you. So now think about if you're raised by a parent or have a partner who, you know, you maybe aren't closed enough with, and they are. You know, disrespecting either your boundaries or not taking care of themselves and you're sharing that energy field with them.

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Vaness: And so when people just start to learn about things  this, it's almost , yeah, that's why I'm so sensitive or whatever the languages they use. And I find it just gives them the permission they need to take accountability for themselves and their own wellness. You know, I. Am really sensitive. I do need this or that, or whatever the thing is.

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Vaness: And it allows them to just finally choose themselves because, you know, there's, they're seeing themselves in a way and they have this, this, , almost  this map to experiment with. And if it works, it doesn't, if it does good, this is, you know, this is, and then, and then of course, when we study a variable, we create rules for ourselves.

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Vaness:  I can only have this and I can only have that. We then escape that to , that's all part of the process as we're figuring out what works for us. And we're trial and erroring and deducing what is going to work. But I, I think you find this area when you find it, it's very good to have a baseline understanding.

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Vaness: And so what are the baseline? What's the basics? You really do want to know your design type. You want to know your strategy and authority. Where is my decision maker in my body? Where is that authority for me? It's my ego. It's my heart for you. It's your sacred. So we have a different process, but we both know who we should be listening to, you know, who's calling the shots we could say.

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Vaness: And we need a lot of life experience just playing with that. For example, manifestors need time to figure out their informing style. You know, how did, how do I initiate, what does that look  for me? Generators need time to figure out what the response feels , you know, they could have a quiet authority and is that my say, girl, there's some time to figure out what that means for you.

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Vaness: Yeah. Some people it's quick. Some people are connected and they know but some of us aren't and some of us need this time We then start to kind of learn about our energy centers. You know, what does this one do? What does that one do? These are defined these are open and we go on a little journey learning about these hubs of energy within us that are  based on the chakra system Just an expanded chakra system.

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Vaness: And we learn, of course, about our profile, our character. And what does that mean for us? I'm a 6'2 role model hermit. You're a 5'1 heretical investigator. And that starts to open up the language of  our gates and what's happening there. And usually around that time is when we start to look at variable.

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Vaness: Because When you look at the gate, you're then going to look at the line. So you might see my conscious son is in gate one and it's 0. 5. The line is five. If you were to go past that line, you would then see another decimal. You'd see the color, another decimal, the tone, another decimal, the base. Yes. And so we then are kind of learning about our unique depth.

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Vaness: And once we get to that area, that's when we're learning how important our specific birth time is down to the minute and why we need that. And we're learning what is my body and mind need deep inside it in order for me to reach my cognitive potential. So I'm feeding into that cognition. So my authority becomes louder so people can pick up my frequency a mile away because I'm just vibrating, you know, it's, it's kind of undeniable.

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Vaness: So when you just kind of devote yourself to taking care of yourself, you will naturally start to find this path if you're a human design lover. 

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Leah: Love it. Love it. And I love the way that you describe that journey. Someone recently told me they heard somewhere. So when I mentor was , I heard on a podcast and I don't know who it was because I said the name, but I, it stuck with me.

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Leah: And they said that in relation to centers and authority, they said that all of your defined centers are  on a board meeting and your authority is the president of the board on. And I was , love that. Never 

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Vaness: heard,  never thought of it that way. Someone's personal poetry, helping us to more understand an existing concept a little bit more deeply.

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Vaness: That's so fun to me.  to me, that's a story worth repeating, right? I don't think we need to tell the classic stories we read in the books or the ones that Ross said, because to be honest with you,  as a millennial, human design came online at the time millennials were born and a lot has shifted.

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Vaness: From that time to now, and some of the stories used by raw and some of the other kind of, , elders within the space are somewhat hard to relate to in this age, you know, none of them really take into account tech and social media in the way that we actually need right now, look at so much of our sharing is that weight  that top technology just didn't exist then.

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Vaness: So I think it's very natural for us to you. Especially look at Gen Z and look at what they're doing and what's happening in their life and what stories are there needing to be told and how can we kind of just look at where we are and use our own experiences that we're actually going through, but we just kind of apply a human design lens, you know, to just get our stories.

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Vaness: I hear it sometimes and I'm , I'm ridiculous, but whatever, let's just go with it. 

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Leah: Well, I love it. And, you know, just to kind of wrap things up and, and just a couple of things, the last question I really wanted to ask you before then I ask how everyone can get connected with you is just, what's your favorite part about being a manifester?

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Vaness: What a great question. What's my favorite part about being a manifester? I really love Adoring my people. And when I watch someone that I love and they're really thriving, I get a lot out of that. But when I notice someone I love is low and I can come in and be , don't you know how amazing you are?

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Vaness: . I know we're down right now and that's valid, but let us not forget all the things you've done And all the places you're gonna go  I love pping people up And I didn't know that that was always available to me But as as long as I allow myself to stay in my adoring energy as long as I continue to bow to people Instead of spew malicious words it helps me fall more and more in love with my design and what's available to me and it keeps me in this space of Reminding people what's unique and special about them and  deeply seeing them and some of the most impactful feedback I get is how I'm able to connect with someone in a way that makes them feel really seen.

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Vaness: So I think my favorite part about being a manifester is my ability to impact the other. Hopefully in a way that, you know, feels good for us both, but I recognize I'm not always in control of that, but just having the chumance to remind someone  why they're incredible, I think is really lucky. , I'm really grateful that I have that available to me.

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Vaness: I really love it. I think it's my favorite part. That's  ego connected to your throat.

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Leah: It's just  you are great. It's  kind of that, , yeah,  give that willpower in people. And then you put your voice to it. And it's just . Bam. It's so impactful. 

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Vaness: I just, I think a lot of us, I think a lot of us, as we keep going and playing, we do really come to fall in love with our authority.

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Vaness: I think, I think it's very natural for the pure generator to be , my belly is the shit, you know,  that's the whole thing. My belly, , as soon as I see the generators were  watching pole dancing or aerial dancing, or, you know, they do anything that's showing their midsection. I think it's so powerful.

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Vaness: , I'm , get it. Get it. We want to see a happy belly generator. 

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Leah: Yeah, , I swear the second that I started just, you know, and it always sounds so simple, I think, when you first get into human design, but then really putting it into practice can be somewhat of a challenge. And , when I learned that it was a generator, Kind of coming off the question,  I remember being bmed out because I was , I'm not rare.

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Leah: I'm not  a reflector or a common. Yeah. Yeah. And I was , bmed about it. But then it was , the more I really started to embrace it and go, no, when I just every moment just follow the thing that I love to do and what's really exciting to me. It's so cool.  I get so expanded and it almost is  a moment that builds.

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Leah: And of course I've got  a root, I've got the 60 to three connection from my root there. So it's  the second that moment is building and , I'm really excited. It's , it's just, I get so pped up and it's  choosing what we're going to have for dessert or. you know, just what my plans are for the weekend.

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 Leah: It's just that ripple effect of the excitement. So 

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Vaness: I absolutely adore the generator. And I see a lot of people who come to human design, discover that they're a generator and they're disappointed and because they want to be this super rare thing. And I want to just say, there's a reason we call the generators, the Holy ones.

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Vaness: That was  the classic thing that was said, these are the Holy ones. The world is a design for you. The other design types. Bow to the generator. , we cannot understand the, the life force available to you. And to be honest,  I've said, there's resentment sometimes because we're , you are so powerful and we have to learn that we're powerful in different ways.

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Vaness: But it's just so ironic to me that everybody who's not a generator wants to be a generator and all the generators are , I'm a generator. And it's , you knew  how powerful you are. And once you get going,  we can't catch you.  once you get on that track and you're aligned and you're powerful and you're going, you're going to overtake us all.

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Vaness: , cause you're just that commitment. You have, we don't have, we might have devotional energy or other types of energy, but the generators ability to harness its life force is really an incredible thing to witness. And so if there's, if there's anything I have to do, it's just a pp up the generators because it's  when you, when you all are healthy.

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Vaness: We plug into you and we experience you  that. And we experience your pleasure. And a big shift I've seen in the human design space is, is the generator collective rerouting their awareness away from work and workforce and recentering pleasure as their drive in life. And pleasure is what I seek. And pleasure is what motivates me.

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Vaness: And pleasure is what I'm here for. But the generator has been tricked in that they're here to work. Builder, the worker. Yeah, you're the builder, you're the worker. It's , actually, you're the joyful, jolly pleasure person here. And we all need you to be that way. Because we plug into you and we learn from you.

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Vaness: We learn from you how to prioritize our pleasure. And so, I think it makes you very, very powerful. Yeah. Yeah. I 

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Leah: love that. You know, I also think there's this  connotation that generators  can't, and maybe people think this about manifestors too, is , I think I've seen before where a generator or any of the other types that aren't a projector can't do human design.

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Leah: , I actually got this in my question box that I do weekly on Instagram. Someone asked me, , how are you a generator and you do human design?  you teach it and you share it. I'm , because it lights me up because I'm excited about it. That's why you don't have to be a projector. You don't have to be any.

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Vaness: Okay. All the design types can do anything. We can all do the same things. We just have a different approach and different process of executing it. We can all start businesses. We can all study human design. We can all travel the world. If these are things we want to experience, you know, it's available to all of us.

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Vaness: Yeah, if that's something we want to go after and it feels good for us, you know, but yeah, it's  there's, there are these old stories, they're dying though, but there are these old stories of not everything is available to all types. And I just don't think that's true. 

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Leah: Yeah. So where can people find you tell everyone about.

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Leah: All the amazing new things you're creating and all that. 

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Vaness: Well, first thing I want to tell you about is if you  human design, but you feel  you need to see it in real life in this sort of practical way. I produce a show on YouTube called HD IRL, which stands for human design in real life. And we follow seven people.

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Vaness: And watch them live out their design. And we kind of point out certain things about them, certain things about their variable or their centers or their strategy or whatever. And it really humanizes these people and shows how this is available to us in a practical way. Because something I've always heard in this space is , okay, how do I apply this?

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Vaness: , how does this look in real life? How do I make this practical? And we kind of come up against these, this language of , , It's just a study. There's nothing to do. And it's , that's bullshit. There's tons of things you can play with. Just, we just don't understand how to do that. So HDIRL on YouTube, on my YouTube chumannel, which is Vaness Henry network really kind of gives an example to look at in this kind of fun, playful way.

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Vaness: And I have another show there called on the roof, which is same thing, pointing out human design with my partner and I, from the six line perspective. And it's very comedy and comical and fun to make. It's fantastic. Thumank you. Yes. It's fun. It's fun. Yeah. I 

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Leah: ever want to follow me around. I will. I will. I'm all in.

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Leah: I love it. 

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Vaness: Come just giving you that fun. If you're here for fun, come. I have this little production company that , I  to make these fun little projects  this and sort of this devotional way. And so that's how I spend a lot of my time. But my personal study is anchored in variable and you can find me at Vaness Henry.

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Vaness: com. If you want to explore variable with me, if you're kind of drawn to my style. , I, I take people into this for an entire year through something called the wellness club, which is not really about interacting with other people, but giving you everything you need to play with your own design, explore your own variable, how to apply fun experiments, how to move into these beautiful deconditioning rituals through something called the frequency bar, which people can plug into at any time.

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Vaness: So since I've been in this area for so long and studying, I needed to put my kind of studies in a, in a. Acculated space, but do it in this really playful way. That's not really about courses anymore, but more about experiences. You know, so much of what we used to do was  teaching and it's chumanging, you know, we want to kind of learn alongside and we want to play and we want to experience, we want to have fun and so I really kind of take that approach while really letting people know my personal story, which was, I'm somebody who was sick and I really want to be well and so I explore concepts of wellness and this is one of the best ways I have found Have found.

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Vaness: And so if you  my style and you want to play this way, I will show you everything you need to know about this and how you can apply it and how you can kind of use it towards wellness. So that's at Vaness Henry. com. And if you're looking to find me anywhere else online, you can search Vaness Henry and you'll probably find me Instagram, Pinterest.

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Vaness: It's a funny little name. So I'm searchable. If you just look up that. 

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Leah: Yeah, she's searchable. She's credible. 

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Leah: , but yeah, you've got all the amazing things. So everyone definitely tune into Vaness and especially if you're a manifester, she's someone just incredible to follow. And, , yeah, thumank you so much for coming on the show and telling us a little bit about what it means to be a manifester and your story.

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Leah: Thumanks. 

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Vaness: This was so fun. 

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Leah: This is  Ben. Just let's lit me up. , I'm going to be filled with energy all day. Just kind of after talking to you. So, , thumank you again. And we will, yeah, we'll stay in touch.